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Old 11-09-2005, 02:29 PM
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Old 11-09-2005, 05:04 PM
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I was in a C-130 once, I remmber a guy got knocked out...the plane took a quick bank and he fell forword and knocked himself out on the hard deck. I remmber it becouse he was talking to my dad, and after they woke him back up my dad told him that that was the first time he stoped talking ever since we took off. Kinda funny becous that was true. It was a bad ride, the worst of it was the fact that we couldn't look out to see any thing and that was my first time up and it was a bit of a drag lol. It might have been a C-17 actualy, but it still wasn't much better than what a C-130 could be like.

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Old 11-09-2005, 06:44 PM
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Cold weather training was cool. There is nothing better than building an igloo and living in it for two days. I would have to agree with the C-130, well LC-130 in my case, being a pain. I have spent as long as 9 hours on them headed south. My personal worst was several different 10 hour flights on C-141's with 140 of my closest friends in extreme cold weather (ECW) gear. Talk about sardines. They don't call it the tube of pain for nothing.

something is seriosly wrong with you man,the cold sucks LOL.To each his own but if I ever sleep in the snow again it will be toooooo soon.I never understood how you could work in antartica,you da man!!!!!!

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Old 11-09-2005, 07:23 PM
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Dracula you have no clue. A C-17 is like riding in a Cadillac vs. a C-130 being a pinto with 6 people. It is much more comfortable, quieter, and you get there much faster.

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Old 11-09-2005, 07:56 PM
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lol yeah come to think of it it was a C-17 they are allways flying in and out of Charleston. Never been in a C-130..seen the insides of a AC-130 tons of times (mainly on video). I would think any Military grade transport would fell bad flying from Alaska to Columbia S.C. Actualy no there are some outher good steady things like the C-17 that are OK to ride in. For sure the worst thing I have been in is the Hue (however you spell it) I never want to be in one again. I sat in a Black Hawk, but never got to fly in it, but that Hue felt like CRAP! Even with the doors closed it was cold, loud, and it vibrated a lot.

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Old 11-09-2005, 08:30 PM
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Old 11-10-2005, 06:49 PM
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Yeah my Dad hated them. He called them shit hooks. Whene he was in Vietnam he sayed he saw more of them get shot down then any thing else. :( which isn't cool. How about we stick to the Black Hawks
Actually, the McDonnell Douglas 500 OH-6 LoAcH (Light Observation Helicopter) suffered the highest percentage of casualties (by a ton) amongst the choppers used in Vietnam. Loach pilots were, in fact, the only category to exceed "2nd Lts - General Infantry" in mortality rate. OH-6s were used for general recon and were often paired with Cobras on search and destroy missions. Loach pilots needed to fly at treetop level to be able to see targets below and consequently, many OH-6s were shot down by small arms fire. For some bizarre reason, the Army elected not to spend the extra $200 required to make the cockpit glass bulletproof, bringing about one of the great all-time blunders of military design. Eventually, some one discovered that flying higher provides startling protection against small arms fire, and that the OH/AH/MH/EH-6s are so maneuverable that they are nearly impossible to hit with anti-aircraft missiles, the avoidance of which was the primary motivation for flying very low.

Incidently, we still fly the OH-6 and it's variants. In fact, the MH-6 is what the Deltas use to enter/exit combat and it has a capacity of 6 riders and 2 pilots, much like the "blackhawk" we deploy during the scenario games. On another note, actual Blackhawks can carry up to 20 fully armed infantry in addition to the two pilots and two side gunners, however, this is apparently absurdly cramped and BHs usually only carry about 14 infantry.

Meanwhile the CH-47 Chinook can carry over 25,000 lbs, and since the average army soldier weighs 170 lbs (and btw weighed only 135-140 lbs in WWII!!) and carries 80 lbs of gear, that comes out to 250 lbs per man, oooor.... an even 100 GIs. It should be noted that this is not the seating capacity of the chinook, merely it's maximum load bearing capacity for reference. Additionally, I agree that anything more than 25-30 would be imbalancing to the scenario even if we had over 400 players again.

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Old 11-11-2005, 09:17 AM
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Actually, the McDonnell Douglas 500 OH-6 LoAcH (Light Observation Helicopter) suffered the highest percentage of casualties (by a ton) amongst the choppers used in Vietnam. Loach pilots were, in fact, the only category to exceed "2nd Lts - General Infantry" in mortality rate. OH-6s were used for general recon and were often paired with Cobras on search and destroy missions. Loach pilots needed to fly at treetop level to be able to see targets below and consequently, many OH-6s were shot down by small arms fire. For some bizarre reason, the Army elected not to spend the extra $200 required to make the cockpit glass bulletproof, bringing about one of the great all-time blunders of military design. Eventually, some one discovered that flying higher provides startling protection against small arms fire, and that the OH/AH/MH/EH-6s are so maneuverable that they are nearly impossible to hit with anti-aircraft missiles, the avoidance of which was the primary motivation for flying very low.

Incidently, we still fly the OH-6 and it's variants. In fact, the MH-6 is what the Deltas use to enter/exit combat and it has a capacity of 6 riders and 2 pilots, much like the "blackhawk" we deploy during the scenario games. On another note, actual Blackhawks can carry up to 20 fully armed infantry in addition to the two pilots and two side gunners, however, this is apparently absurdly cramped and BHs usually only carry about 14 infantry.

Meanwhile the CH-47 Chinook can carry over 25,000 lbs, and since the average army soldier weighs 170 lbs (and btw weighed only 135-140 lbs in WWII!!) and carries 80 lbs of gear, that comes out to 250 lbs per man, oooor.... an even 100 GIs. It should be noted that this is not the seating capacity of the chinook, merely it's maximum load bearing capacity for reference. Additionally, I agree that anything more than 25-30 would be imbalancing to the scenario even if we had over 400 players again.
I knew a couple of old Loach pilots from Vietnam. They swore that the Loach was the most crashworthy helicopter in Army Aviation. It had to do with the inherent strength of the teardrop shape of the airframe.

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Old 11-11-2005, 02:16 PM
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You guys are like freaking encyclopedia's of info irrelavant to paintball. ;o). Our Chinook, C-130, MD OH-6 or whatever will never be much more than a piece of PVC piping and some nylon lines.

I don't care if you put Imperial Tie-fighters in the battle. Its still a couple of guys running around holding a pole, and paintballs break the same as soon as the ref says, "LETS GET IT ON!"

Have Thumper let me carry a SWAT shield that can be used for blocking paintballs. Now that's an advantage I can use. HA!

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Old 11-11-2005, 02:51 PM
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