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Old 01-23-2008, 07:39 PM
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I will have to apologize for causing such an uproar, but first consider this the three biggest cons the devil has pulled off are as follows: Evil that occurs in the world today was not caused by him because he does not exist, man to step away from God because God does not exist or matter in life, and that we should accept Islam as a holy religion despite evidence proofing it is man made by Mohammed who is a descendent of Ishmael whose mother was Hagger. She was kick out of the fold of Abraham because her child was not born out of promise, but because Sarah did not believe, which is a long story and time I do not wish to divulge in but one can easily trace this or follow this premise by Google searches.

Now for some fun, how about a paintball crusades, one team will the atheist or agnostics against those who believe…

Next I too believe in evolution but you or I did not come from caveman, we came from Adam and Eve and the caveman was one of the reasons God allowed the earth to flood, to wipe out this impure line of man which he did not create, so in essences he protected his creation of man by genocide of the caveman. I could go on but why.

Again I apologize for all this controversy and if the administrators want to ban me, so be it, I accept this punishment, with pride for standing for the truth.

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Old 01-23-2008, 07:47 PM
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interesting read here --

Im reading Michael Criton's books NEXT and LOST WORLD. Both excellent books -- In Lost World, Ian Malcome explains his theory that complex organisms only thrive on the edge of chaos - and later theorizes that the dinosaur's behavior did not adapt quickly enough to the changing environment - but man's did.

In NEXT, Criton hits this theory again in his brief explainantion of why Neanderthal Man died off (as an untra-conservative) while Cro-Magnon man (as a more liberal innovative creation) adapted to and thrived in the world.

But they cross breed - leaving traces of the Neanderthal Gene in the genetic soup of the Cro-Magnon man - and now in us.

Looking at our two part system (Neanderthal = Repubilicans) and (Cro-Magnon = Liberals) and then applying a dose of Ian Malcome's premise that complex organisms can only thrive at the edge of chaos - I have to think that our two party political system is well designed at the genetic level to help preserve the balance at the edge of this chaos of our time.

I tend to lean Neanderthal - and I can appreciate Huckabee's passion and desired to shift our nation's moral level back few dozen decades. I can also see where a bunch of my Neanderthal brothers think (as I do) that the republicans have gone to close to the edge (Bush has to be Cro-Magnon). And as a result vote their displeasure.

I think Fred Thompson would have been a safe Neanderthal man.
Only at PBJUNKIE Fellas!!! We cross religion, politics and evolution here!!!!
But with that said, it makes good sense.

I do not believe that religion should be forced, but the existence of God in our laws keeps a high moral standard as many have indicated in this thread.
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Old 01-23-2008, 08:11 PM
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I will have to apologize for causing such an uproar, but first consider this the three biggest cons the devil has pulled off are as follows: Evil that occurs in the world today was not caused by him because he does not exist, man to step away from God because God does not exist or matter in life, and that we should accept Islam as a holy religion despite evidence proofing it is man made by Mohammed who is a descendent of Ishmael whose mother was Hagger. She was kick out of the fold of Abraham because her child was not born out of promise, but because Sarah did not believe, which is a long story and time I do not wish to divulge in but one can easily trace this or follow this premise by Google searches.

Now for some fun, how about a paintball crusades, one team will the atheist or agnostics against those who believe…

Next I too believe in evolution but you or I did not come from caveman, we came from Adam and Eve and the caveman was one of the reasons God allowed the earth to flood, to wipe out this impure line of man which he did not create, so in essences he protected his creation of man by genocide of the caveman. I could go on but why.

Again I apologize for all this controversy and if the administrators want to ban me, so be it, I accept this punishment, with pride for standing for the truth.

Juk
You are quoting the old testament. If you actually new anything about the Bible you would know why your quote is completely irrelevant.
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Old 01-23-2008, 08:12 PM
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Next I too believe in evolution but you or I did not come from caveman, we came from Adam and Eve and the caveman was one of the reasons God allowed the earth to flood, to wipe out this impure line of man which he did not create, so in essences he protected his creation of man by genocide of the caveman. I could go on but why.
wow.....

who do you believe created the cavemen then? Do you believe in another diety that coexisted during this time that was able to create intelligent life?
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Old 01-23-2008, 08:39 PM
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If I knew anything of the bible, I guess you are right I do not, however I guess the year I study to become a Priest, or an Ordain minister has no relevance, however all the difference of the same text is what made me quit organize religion. But I do know that my point is valid.



You see the battle between the Jews and Islam has always been about the customs of what Abraham broke, to put it simply. You see the eldest male child, regardless if they were born to the wife or a handmaiden would receive everything the father had or owned because of birth right. But God said kick out the handmaiden and her child because he was not born of the promise but by the flesh, you know the rest of the story…



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Old 01-23-2008, 08:52 PM
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You are quoting the old testament. If you actually new anything about the Bible you would know why your quote is completely irrelevant.
Yeah i often get confused about which bible people go by. I mean there are so many books written by the hand of god.. /sarcasm. So what your saying is that Christianity doesnt have a problem with homosexuals? because its not mentioned in the bible.. Whats the big fing firestorm about gay marriage then? And your telling me no christian has ever quoted the old testament?

How about some new Testament?
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 "Don't you know that those who do wrong will have no share in the Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, who are idol worshipers, adulterers, male prostitutes, homesexuals, thieves, greedy people, drunkards, abusers, and swindlers--none of these will have a share in the Kingdom of God."

Romans 1:21-27 "Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn't worship him as God or even give him thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. The result was that their minds became dark and confused. Claiming to be wise, they became utter fools instead. And instead of worshiping the glorious, ever-living God, they worshiped idols made to look like mere people, or birds and animals and snakes."
"So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other's bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen."
That is why God abondoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved."

So my question? did God change his mind between the time the Old Testament was written with his guidance, and the time he helped out with the New Testament? or the King James bible LOL?

My point is, the word of ""god"" is interpreted by man, that gives the interpreter. a hrmph... GOD AWFUL amount of power to push their own agenda..
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Old 01-23-2008, 09:01 PM
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To explain briefly there is only one true God however the devil wants to copy everything God does because he wants the glory and the recognition. The devil knows the bible better than you and I, and he wants the glory so when he was kicked out of heaven he either stopped what God put into motion and the caveman came or he made them somehow, but whatever happens it will be revealed to us one day.



Think, Adam saw something, maybe caveman mating with cavewoman, and asked God for a helpmate hence here comes Eve, Cain was kicked out of the garden and who did he mate with, caveman, from Cain being a superior form of life caveman evolved. Next somewhere it said that God told his people not to mingle or mix with the giants, well who are these giants where did they come from, Cain and caveman or I should say cavewoman offspring. But Gods people continued not listen as always, so what happened next is the next phase of evolution for the Caveman, you see how this works, well then the flood came for many reasons. I know Tate will refute this and all I will say is this is, this last post on this topic because I am tired of arguing or I should say debating…
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Old 01-23-2008, 09:04 PM
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He is talking to me about my thread. I am tired and have to take some cans to the one known as gramps at work.
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Old 01-23-2008, 09:44 PM
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I will have to apologize for causing such an uproar, but first consider this the three biggest cons the devil has pulled off are as follows: Evil that occurs in the world today was not caused by him because he does not exist, man to step away from God because God does not exist or matter in life, and that we should accept Islam as a holy religion despite evidence proofing it is man made by Mohammed who is a descendent of Ishmael whose mother was Hagger. She was kick out of the fold of Abraham because her child was not born out of promise, but because Sarah did not believe, which is a long story and time I do not wish to divulge in but one can easily trace this or follow this premise by Google searches.

Now for some fun, how about a paintball crusades, one team will the atheist or agnostics against those who believe…

Next I too believe in evolution but you or I did not come from caveman, we came from Adam and Eve and the caveman was one of the reasons God allowed the earth to flood, to wipe out this impure line of man which he did not create, so in essences he protected his creation of man by genocide of the caveman. I could go on but why.

Again I apologize for all this controversy and if the administrators want to ban me, so be it, I accept this punishment, with pride for standing for the truth.

Juk
I am sorry jukando I meant to quote socoj. My response was not to your post. I accidently quoted your post. Once again sorry for the confusion.

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You are quoting the old testament. If you actually new anything about the Bible you would know why your quote is completely irrelevant.
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If I knew anything of the bible, I guess you are right I do not, however I guess the year I study to become a Priest, or an Ordain minister has no relevance, however all the difference of the same text is what made me quit organize religion. But I do know that my point is valid.



You see the battle between the Jews and Islam has always been about the customs of what Abraham broke, to put it simply. You see the eldest male child, regardless if they were born to the wife or a handmaiden would receive everything the father had or owned because of birth right. But God said kick out the handmaiden and her child because he was not born of the promise but by the flesh, you know the rest of the story…



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To explain briefly there is only one true God however the devil wants to copy everything God does because he wants the glory and the recognition. The devil knows the bible better than you and I, and he wants the glory so when he was kicked out of heaven he either stopped what God put into motion and the caveman came or he made them somehow, but whatever happens it will be revealed to us one day.



Think, Adam saw something, maybe caveman mating with cavewoman, and asked God for a helpmate hence here comes Eve, Cain was kicked out of the garden and who did he mate with, caveman, from Cain being a superior form of life caveman evolved. Next somewhere it said that God told his people not to mingle or mix with the giants, well who are these giants where did they come from, Cain and caveman or I should say cavewoman offspring. But Gods people continued not listen as always, so what happened next is the next phase of evolution for the Caveman, you see how this works, well then the flood came for many reasons. I know Tate will refute this and all I will say is this is, this last post on this topic because I am tired of arguing or I should say debating…
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Old 01-23-2008, 10:05 PM
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Think, Adam saw something, maybe caveman mating with cavewoman, and asked God for a helpmate hence here comes Eve,
I don't know if you believe the bible to be the very word of God but here is what is says about that...
"The Lord God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him." - Genesis 2:18
It wasnt that Adam looked around and got jealous of the cavemen with thier cavewomen. God in his infinite wisdom knew that inside of us there was a desire to have companionship. So he created a companion for Adam.

I will get back to you on the whole Giant thing. That is going to take a little while to type....
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