Vents Goggles?

[Rembrandt]

not sure bout those. if its a 2 layered lens then its thermal. youll see a black ring around the edge of the lens inbetween the 2 layers.

[tate0301]

Originally Posted by spyderman84

if i do get the avatars i will, but i was having fogging problems with the vforce vantages. arent' they thermal stock?

Some vantages come stock with thermal lenses some don't. Mine came stock with a thermal lense and it hasn't fogged yet.