bounce and debounce

[theubernoob]

wut are bounce and debounce

[Pumpster]

OK *GASP* Bounce is caused by the microswitch moving back and forth and tripping it again before it comes to its finally resting point. Debounce is programed into the board so that it reads or does not read these.

[theubernoob]

so you pull the tigger once and it fires twice even though its on semi auto? and debounce fixes that?

[DeepFreeze]

When you activate a microswitch it doesn't exactly go on and off. When you activate the switch it has a point at which it activates more than once. Think about when electricity arcs from one point to another. It isn't a constant direct arc. It will start and stop the arc several times until the points are close enough to complete the circuit fully. This happens rather quickly, but the debounce reduces this by creating a slight delay between the first arc and the activation of the board.

[theubernoob]

do guns bounce on their own w/o a program?

[!rshpnkrckr]

Ok, here's the low-down. There are two kinds of "bounce". The first is mechanical bounce, which is where the kick of the gun forces your trigger back onto the microswitch. This is also called "filling in shots" when you start to shoot fast. What happens is, the physical movement takes throws the gun into the trigger that is being held by your hand. This is fairly easy to get rid of, since you can adjust the physical pull of the trigger, or your pull.

The second kind is called "electrical bounce" also known as "switch noise". Switch noise is caused by the physics of electricity and the operation of a microswitch. When you activate a switch, putting it in the "on" position, there isn't only one electrical pulse sent. There are many, since the internal parts of the switch hit each other many times and rub together. The board senses the pulses as pulls and activates the solinoid for each. What debounce does, is act as a filter to this electrical storm coming from the switch. It gets rid of the "false pulls" and simply disregards this. The higher the debounce, the pickier/denser the filter is. Most work as a timer, meaning you must pull the trigger for x milliseconds and release the trigger for y milliseconds before it will allow another pull.

Cheater boards can do multiple things. Some of them, will go into a "full auto" at x bps after a certain rate is achieved. Some will run the debounce down when a certain rate is acheived. Some will "save" the filtered out false pulls and apply them whenever your rate lacks. That is reffered to as "filling in shots" also, but this way is purposely illegal. Some boards save the extra pulls and apply them like the old shocker turbo's. It throws in those shots randomly so one pull could be 2 or 3 shots. The last way is hardest to spot because it's random and looks legitament. It's easiest to catch when tested however, for the same reason. There are many ways that boards can cheat, and they can become very in depth to the point of being unusable. Boards could easily activate after 20 shots, and shut off the cheat after 15 seconds of not shooting. They could ramp to 18bps when you shoot 13 or higher and sustain it for 3 seconds and stop when you went below 9bps. It can become quite complicated and subtle to the point that you would have to unlock the boards with a computer and look at the programming to catch people.

Hope this makes sense.