'Crowd Buster' by Punisher Customs

[Grendel]

I was surfing around some favorite sites and found this.

Crowd Buster


I think I could have fun with this gun!

[MrWizard]

Gendel,
Riddle me this Batman. Seems the pump claim to fame is the accuracy. Is this because the user KNOWS he has to make a good shot or are there no accurate semi's out there? While my springfield 03 is more accurate than the winchester and it has to do with the barrel dynamics under a heavier heat load and gas management (I was a gunsmith apprentice once) even though I trued and blued both barrels the same. What say ye on these items. Yes, I have read why to pump. My automag for example has a nice single shot pattern with good paint when I use the long barrel. As do a lot of the new low pressure electronics that have Fantastic stable velocity from shot to shot. I think an earlier post of mine somewhere begged the question who benefits from bad paint. Since the DDay paint was substandard (dont you hate to overpay for .68 golfballs) a number of you admitted belately to falling back to semi's. Is the pump a hiding, sniping, defense waepon or are you up front pushing the line with it too? Or is it the tool of the elitist (the apple of the computer world) who measures his day on the balls/kill ratio? I'm not advocating dillinger type play since I typically use only use 700 balls per game when unmounted, but could the pump also just be a mindset that drives the quality of shot?

[stockclassboy]

When I play with my pump I'm right up there with everyone else.

[Grendel]

Originally Posted by MrWizard

Gendel,
Riddle me this Batman. Seems the pump claim to fame is the accuracy. Is this because the user KNOWS he has to make a good shot or are there no accurate semi's out there? While my springfield 03 is more accurate than the winchester and it has to do with the barrel dynamics under a heavier heat load and gas management (I was a gunsmith apprentice once) even though I trued and blued both barrels the same. What say ye on these items. Yes, I have read why to pump. My automag for example has a nice single shot pattern with good paint when I use the long barrel. As do a lot of the new low pressure electronics that have Fantastic stable velocity from shot to shot. I think an earlier post of mine somewhere begged the question who benefits from bad paint. Since the DDay paint was substandard (dont you hate to overpay for .68 golfballs) a number of you admitted belately to falling back to semi's. Is the pump a hiding, sniping, defense waepon or are you up front pushing the line with it too? Or is it the tool of the elitist (the apple of the computer world) who measures his day on the balls/kill ratio? I'm not advocating dillinger type play since I typically use only use 700 balls per game when unmounted, but could the pump also just be a mindset that drives the quality of shot?

1 - I do not feel that a pump is inherently any more accurate than a semi. Good pumps are good and bad pumps are bad, as with semi-autos. We have a member of our team Brain who's Angel is one of the most accurate shooting guns I've seen and it can be used to single tap someone as well as laying down some serious fire power. I think your thought about "...user KNOWS he has to make a good shot..." is most of the truth. If you know that you can put 10+ balls down range at a target the tendency is that you do not have to take as accurate a shot to get you opponent. Also there is the "fear" factor if you have the drop on someone you want to be sure you get him so he can not in turn on you and eliminate you. With a pump you've got to make that one shot count.

2 - I like to play the pump because it puts some challenge to the game and actually saves me money. There is nothing like taking out several players and not even having to reload your hopper. There is also the intimidating factor, there are players who think you are some sort of "paintball god" if you go out and play with a pump against many more paint sprayers. I do not believe pump players are necessarily better players but some players hold that view and I'll use every advantage I can get.

3 - I actually like to at times use my back up gun which happens to be a Warp fed Automag with a beautifully "RT"ing X-valve. I usually will use this when the paint is good and there is a proven need on the field for some firepower. I believe that there is a place in paintball for all types and styles of players.

4 - In general for most players [my oppinion] feel that the pump is for the stealthy "sniper" lonewolf player, used to harass, distract and demoralize their opponents. I do not follow this concept, I feel that the use of the pump effectively does not limit your roll in paintball but instead makes you have to use your head a little more to accomplish your objectives. With a pump you can not bail yourself out with fire power on your own, so you have to think ahead and out smart your targets. That being said during the D-Day game we had I never switched to a semi and spent most of my time in the front trying to take back the village lost early in the event. For me if I'm not being shot at I'm not having fun whether I play pump or semi.

5 - Pump play is a personal choice, not suited for all players. I like it and so do many of the members of our team. Its more a mind set than anything. When I taught my daughter to play paintball I made her start out pump only until she got the hang of the game. I feel this teaches control, patience and good shooting habits. Then I let her move on to Semi and she has never turned back but when I watch her play the first lessons she learned with the pump still shine through.

6 - Lastly forget comparing "real" rifles and paintball guns. Though conceptually they are similar I've found very little transports from one to the other well. I was an avid competitor in High Power Rifle competitions for years and did some IPSC as well for awhile. Most everything I learned about rifles and their use I had to relearn for paintball. [By the way my competition rifle was a Heavily Modified Springfield Armory M14 National Match (Semi-Automatic). ]

[MrWizard]

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6) I was comparing the Springfield to something made lighter to compare the relative beefiness of a good pump to the lightweight of an =$ semiauto. Weak analogy. I look at this pump and the machine work and fit calls my Klingon side I would not count a match M14 as a normal semi. :p I spent half my time bench firing and sighting in on 100, 300, and 500 yd ranges the things we just finished. Never did competition. But remind me at FF to tell you about the Gwinnett Co door remover we made. As for the carry over:I think the gun owner respects the safety and equipment of our sport more.

Good Verbage, thanks. BTW, a neighbor who showed up to play (I have my own field) with his old, old pump ( who knew?) one day showed the kids how to spit curve a ball to hit a camper behind a tree. LOL A naughty paintball god living next door.

[Grendel]

You need to recruit him, there never is enough sneaky, creative and treacherous oldsters floating around.

I like the "Crowd Buster" pump because it is low profile and unique. It would be well suited for for one of those "ghillied snipers" easy to camo and give you a great low profile. I've actually played around with a couple of drawings already on how I'd want one customized for me. The next thing would be use an automag as the source for a similar gun with the advantages of a semi-automatic, would need a better air source though.

[MrWizard]

Hmmm. Semi auto...sniper profile...bottom loading...long barrel:
sniper

[Grendel]

LOL That one is .50 cal not .68 cal I do not think they'd let us use that one .

Serioiusly I think I could make an spring fed underloading semi-automatic "sniper rifle".

[MrWizard]

Ask to see Bobio's angel before he shoots you with it, heh heh. It's what you want.