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Old 02-07-2008, 10:58 PM
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If you're saying you're a legal immigrant, no one has a problem with that & we're glad to have you.
yea i agree whats stated if you want to live here get your citizen ship
although it can be a long process

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Old 02-07-2008, 11:13 PM
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Old 02-08-2008, 02:29 AM
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This is total BS. I dispise people that come here and then disrespect every thing about the USA. If you dont like it, get the heck out!!!

Personally I'd say its time to stop all immigration and stop all aid with the out side. If they want to disrespect us then we should show them exaclty what its like with out us. Let all these countries and people fend for them selves for awhile.

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Old 02-08-2008, 10:45 AM
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Wow those pictures seriously piss me off. I used to live in California and I still visit at least once a year. Its pretty sad when you go to a theme park or a large public event and caucasians are the minority. All the conversations going on around you are in spanish and many of the billboards and vendor signs are in spanish. Even road signs and signs put there by the goverment usually are in spanish with english in small font underneath the spanish.

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Old 02-08-2008, 11:28 AM
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the question is, what course of action can be taken to reverse the damage done? i am all for people seeking a better life in the USA. what i cannot stand is when they come here ILLEGALLY and i have to pay for their medical and social needs, and especially when they come here and disrespect my country. i am fed up with this.

i have heard people talk about their rights.... THEY ARE NOT CITIZENS... they have no rights. other than the right to an expeditious trip back to their country.

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Old 02-08-2008, 11:35 AM
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the question is, what course of action can be taken to reverse the damage done? i am all for people seeking a better life in the USA. what i cannot stand is when they come here ILLEGALLY and i have to pay for their medical and social needs, and especially when they come here and disrespect my country. i am fed up with this.

i have heard people talk about their rights.... THEY ARE NOT CITIZENS... they have no rights. other than the right to an expeditious trip back to their country.
Here's a copy of my earlier post:

Commone sense would make it better.

1. Outlaw driver's license for illlegals in all 50 States. Include State ID cards with that.

2. Require driver's license, legal passport, or State ID to rent hotel rooms or homes or to buy homes. Require those that rent to check these things, which they should keep a copy for CYAs sake.

If not already in place for jobs, pass that too.

3. Pass a huge "there goes my profits" penalty for 1st time offenders for both those who rent to & those who employ illlegals. Do it again for 2nd time offenders & also add 6 months in jail. Sieze property if fines are not paid or if the persons somehow disappear.

4. Install a regulated worker program complete with special IDs.

5. Hire a dozen people per state to go around at random checking for violations. The fines will pay their saleries easily. Give them the tools to kick butt.

6. Install all of this over the course of 6 to 12 months.

7. Watch the exit at the border back up. Si! Si!

Basically, we do not need to round up & deport 12 million illegals-- we only need to make it very hard for them to get a place to live and work. Then they leave on their own. This has already been shown to work on a smaller scale when states have passed new laws in the recent past.

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Old 02-08-2008, 11:53 AM
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The main thing for me is that this is proof that our country does not give a crap about it's citizens or about what's best long term for our country.

You know how the government treats the military men & women, so you're forced to conculde that they don't care about them? Well the same is true for the government & the U.S. population.

What the government knows is that illegals are helping to keep wages down across the board and both political parties are gulity.

You see, more illegals working whereever, means more legal citizens fighting for the other jobs. So maybe illegals are not known for working in your particular industry, but your wages are still affected. People making less at one end of the economic spectrum decreases wages for people at the other end. And more & more illegals are getting in to higher technical trades & such. It's been documented that illegals cause a serious increase in unemployment among adult Black men. But it others too-- I have a newphew that can't find work in construction- despite being very, very talented (I know, he's done work for me). I have a brother-in-law that been out of work more often than not for the last year for the same reason & he's a brick layer. Also, No one cares about the lack of quality work often done (contractors, etc).

But anyway, a government that specifically wants it's citizens to compete with illegals for work is horrible. Beyond that, without secure borders you have no national security. So it very likely that thousands of Americans will dies in another terrorist attack just because our government wants to allow illegals to pour over our borders & provide cheap labor.

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i already saw your proposal ace, what i mean is, how the **** does one get something like that set in motion?? its a great idea, but thats all it is until it becomes law. how the hell do you get something like that pushed into the government and made legal??
its sad when the simplest solution is for a bunch of good ol boys to rally up and "detain" illegals on the texas border.

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Old 02-08-2008, 12:31 PM
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...what i mean is, how the **** does one get something like that set in motion?? its a great idea, but thats all it is until it becomes law. how the hell do you get something like that pushed into the government and made legal?/...
Get rid of career politicians and put people in place that will enact the laws we as the people want. Do not legislate by the power of the dollar.

1) Term limits
2) No income for elected officials other than official salary
3) No going to work for lobbies or their associated companies for [4] years after leaving office.
4) No boondoggles [gifts] from lobbies
5) Standard campaign fund limits across the board.

Do these things above and the money hungry legislators will not run for reelection since they will not have as much to gain anymore. We might actually get some people in office who will represent the people who vote for them instead of special interest groups. The problem is we have to first get these rules changed with the crooks we already have in office.

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Old 02-08-2008, 01:52 PM
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Couldn't we have a secret version of the minutemen that would go around & "encourage" lawmakers to do right?

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