What do you hate most about recball?

[jersey101]

Originally Posted by [sm] drewcif

my first ever scenario game, was one of my first times ever playing paintball. Needless to say some idiot with a stingwray shot me in the back of the calf at point blank range in the chrono range....


Drew

People who do that are often never seen or heard of again.

[drewcif]

Ive never had the pleasure of meeting that individual. thats correct
Drew

[radict]

The only thing I have personally had happen witch once that bad just frustrating. We were playing our woodsball on the home feild this shows up with a nice setup. Halo rip drive I mean a nice rig. So I figure he knows what hes doing right. 3 of us went forward including him. We got ambushed and I'm pinned behind a tree with paintspraying all around. And I look over at the guy with nice rig and he is hiding in a thorn bush and the other team does not know he is there and he refuses to move and get a position to take out the other team while they are focused on me. He just sits there. Needless to say I was lit-up like a christmas tree and he just gave up. lol So I guess I saw my first guy with nice gun that doesnt know how to use it.

[radict]

Slowly but surely I am see alot of the stuff talked about in this thread. So far the biggest thing I'm seeing is 14yr olds showing up with angels, ions, and everything between talking about how great they are in paintball but yet I have not been very impressed. Like today I played against 3 guys and they were shooting ion, angel, electra. They probably shot around 2000 in a woodsball game and hit no one. Once they started shooting they never stopped till hopper ran out. Naturally once my team herd them dry firing they moved in. But yet at the end of the game they all were still talking about how they ALMOST shot someone. I never have been much on talk, I want to see action. Oh well guess theres not much you can do about it exept put them out and keep moving forward.

[CASTRO]

Their are a couple of thing that hack me, the first Reff.S that have no clue as to what is going around them or on the Field, This goes not only for rec. but for 24 hour. games.
The second thing is The People that go to games, the talk a great game off the field, but you do not see them on the field. They are working on Markers,Shooting the Bull with Vendors ( I have this happen at every game with my Team) Why spend the Money you go to play so play.

There are some really great Reffs out their, so spred the knowledge with the young & newer Reffs.

Lets KEEP PAINTBALL SAFE FOR EVERY ONE !


Castro

[Mr.Aggsauce]

i dont like recball because more experienced players (like all you guys) dont give any credit to "noobs". i am willin to bet that those "noobs" had more fun their 1st time playin than all of you guys put together(minus the time when you all were "noobs", cause u no u were at one point) pretty sure i dont like the people that complain about what they dont like about recball. paintball is fun...i love paintball. i would honestly probably be an underage male prostitute getting slapped around by my female pimp w/o paintball in my life. i like recball because i get to meet all kinds of new people, i like reffing and workin the fill station at PBC because im exposed to all kinds of new people and their attitudes (good and bad) towards playin and other stuff. but i guess i dont like complaining/whining. but i also guess im not really being fair because im complaing about how i dont like complaining...its a never ending cycle...and that guy(SHARTLEY) who had like 15 things he didnt like about paintball. he just seemed like a grumpy guy and i couldnt really see myself playing w/ or against him...he so negative. negativity=not cool...his list seemed like it would have been shorter if he listed what he liked about recball. but anyways....recball is cool because it gives all kinds of "newbies" a chance to come out and have just fun and not take paintball too seriously. half the ppl in this forum dont seem to give "newbies" credit when they are really what keeps recball goin. Skeeter(owner of PBC) made this pretty clear to me. so i guess i love the "newbies" that shoot me in the back of the head, dont move up, dont "cover my back", i luv the kids w/ expensive guns that shoot a lot of paint because thats more paint sold for my home field, i love "newbs" not listening to me when i tell them move up cause it teaches them to be self reliant. i luv the kids what dry fire their guns because im the 1 that gets to fill their tank right back up and they pay for it. i like the kids that come out and talk abunch of stuff about how good they are. i like the kids that brag about shootin someone that i acctually shot, if thats what keeps them playin, thinkn they shot someone or tellin someone they shot some one then i will proudly give away all my eliminations to anyone that might have "shot 2000 rounds a game and not hit anyone". probably most of all ..i love the first timers that convience their whole family to come out to play, drop a load of money on rentals and paint, have a great time (even while people complain because they are "newbs") and they end up tellin all their friends to come out and play. i like the "newb" family to be wonderin what activity they could go do that would bring them more together as a family and they pick paintball because thats what keeps recball goin..new players. try to own or play at a field where its only experienced players allowed...it would be boring and the field would never survive. and for people who arnt lucky enough to have a lot of "newbs"...be nice to them, tell them to bring their friends and family, help them have as much fun as possible so they come back again...because you arnt helpin your field out if you dont. hope this means something to someone. i completely changed my entire attitude towards "noobs" after i very nearly got banned from my field for being a complete jerk to newer players and taking advantage of them. so....BE NICE TO YOUR NOOBS!

[shartley]

This thread is about what people don’t like about recball, not what they DO like about it. PBCsniper2baller, you know nothing about me. You take a post that I made that was ON TOPIC for a thread and conclude how I am? I will attribute that to age I guess, but I WILL comment on some things you said.

Originally Posted by PBCsniper2baller

i dont like recball because more experienced players (like all you guys) dont give any credit to "noobs". i am willin to bet that those "noobs" had more fun their 1st time playin than all of you guys put together(minus the time when you all were "noobs", cause u no u were at one point) pretty sure i dont like the people that complain about what they dont like about recball. paintball is fun...i love paintball.

Hogwash. You don’t have the first clue about how I treat new players, nor how much credit I give them. And you don’t know what you are talking about concerning how much fun new players have compared to any of “us”. Guess what? One of my paintball mottos is “He who leaves the field having had the most fun WINS.” And most people who have seen me online (or in the real world) know this.

But you take one thread, and one post that is ON TOPIC for the thread and conclude that we don’t have fun… or not as much fun as we did when we first played? Give me a break……

i would honestly probably be an underage male prostitute getting slapped around by my female pimp w/o paintball in my life.

This comment serves no purpose but to show your immaturity and that you probably have some other issues in life…. which by comments further down I would bet I am not far off.

i like recball because i get to meet all kinds of new people, i like reffing and workin the fill station at PBC because im exposed to all kinds of new people and their attitudes (good and bad) towards playin and other stuff. but i guess i dont like complaining/whining. but i also guess im not really being fair because im complaing about how i dont like complaining...its a never ending cycle...

And this would be great for a thread titled “What we LIKE about paintball”. I would probably list some of the same things. But this thread (again) is not about what we LIKE, but what we DON’T like. It is also not “complaining” it is listing what WE DON’T LIKE. LOL

and that guy(SHARTLEY) who had like 15 things he didnt like about paintball. he just seemed like a grumpy guy and i couldnt really see myself playing w/ or against him...he so negative. negativity=not cool...his list seemed like it would have been shorter if he listed what he liked about recball. but anyways...

I think you know my response to this… read my above responses. Also, like I said, this was NOT a thread about what we LIKE about recball.

Do you know who I am? I don’t ask this to puff out my chest, but in all honesty. Do you know my involvement in the sport? Do you know what I have done for paintball as well as online paintball communities over the years? Do you know how I play? Do you know my philosophies about the sport and whether I actively encourage new players or not?

Judging from your post I would say it is a resounding NO to everything I asked. Yet you read a post listing things I don’t like and draw the conclusion that you do? You see one side of a coin and think you know what you are talking about?

recball is cool because it gives all kinds of "newbies" a chance to come out and have just fun and not take paintball too seriously. half the ppl in this forum dont seem to give "newbies" credit when they are really what keeps recball goin. Skeeter(owner of PBC) made this pretty clear to me.

That too is hogwash. New players, and young new players, come with some issues. Those issues can be taken care of with guidance though. But that does not mean we don’t like new players, only some of the things they do. There is a HUGE difference there.

And with all do respect, new players don’t keep this sport going. It is repeat players who do. While we DO need new players to come into the sport, most new players don’t stay. They are instant sales but not long term support. It is the player who keeps coming back time and again that keeps the sport going. Many of us know however that we NEED to keep bringing new players into the sport so that they can become the repeat player. And knowing that most do not, many of us try to bring as many new players to the game as we can.

So that my young friend would indicate that while new players are very important, they are not what keeps the sport going. It is seasoned players who bring in as many new players as they can and try to nurture them into productive, responsible, and active players who keep the sport going. If it was left to only new players, the sport would die. The same can not be said about seasoned players who have in fact kept playing for years no matter what the social view or even economic standing was.

so i guess i love the "newbies" that shoot me in the back of the head, dont move up, dont "cover my back",

Hogwash. You only say this to argue and be counter to what anyone here has posted. No one in their right mind loves being shot in the back of their head by their own team or not having a team member not move up while playing and not covering their back. And this applies to players of all experience levels. I know some long time players who sit back as well and don’t contribute to the team’s efforts.

i luv the kids w/ expensive guns that shoot a lot of paint because thats more paint sold for my home field,

That is a field’s perspective. Enough said….

i love "newbs" not listening to me when i tell them move up cause it teaches them to be self reliant.

And that is part of the problem. Paintball is not a game of being “self reliant”. It is a TEAM SPORT. If someone wants to be self reliant they need to find an activity that does not depend on teamwork or where their actions or inactions do not impact those around them. While it may be cool and “mature” for young people to not do what they are told, in paintball it can be quite the opposite….. well, in life it is often the opposite as well.

i luv the kids what dry fire their guns because im the 1 that gets to fill their tank right back up and they pay for it.

That comes from a fill station worker… Enough said….

i like the kids that come out and talk abunch of stuff about how good they are. i like the kids that brag about shootin someone that i acctually shot, if thats what keeps them playin, thinkn they shot someone or tellin someone they shot some one then i will proudly give away all my eliminations to anyone that might have "shot 2000 rounds a game and not hit anyone".

Again this sounds more like someone trying to be the opposite of everyone else. If this is actually how you feel (which I doubt) that is your right. I don’t feel this way and believe folks need to be HONEST, and play with HONOR. None of what you just posted contributes to either. You see, to some of us the game is more than just going out and shooting paint at people or things. Until you understand that not much else can be said.

probably most of all ..i love the first timers that convience their whole family to come out to play, drop a load of money on rentals and paint, have a great time (even while people complain because they are "newbs") and they end up tellin all their friends to come out and play. i like the "newb" family to be wonderin what activity they could go do that would bring them more together as a family and they pick paintball because thats what keeps recball goin..new players.

As a man with a large family I can tell you that although I love paintball there are many other activities that bring families together and that are actually better at it than paintball. Also, paintball is expensive for an entire family to play, so it is automatically knocked out of the running as a “family activity” for a good many families.

I will also point out my comments above about who really keeps the sport going.

try to own or play at a field where its only experienced players allowed...it would be boring and the field would never survive.

Hogwash on both counts. The most exciting games I have ever played were with all players being experienced. It forces everyone to up their level of game and to not walk though the game. Most of us experienced players push ourselves in accordance to the average skill level on the field. The more new players there are the more we relax and hold ourselves back. And if you didn’t have any new players on the field the new players would not know what to do. I have seen it time and again. Don’t believe me? Just field two teams of players who have never played before. Then field two teams with experienced players. See the difference in the games.

and for people who arnt lucky enough to have a lot of "newbs"...be nice to them, tell them to bring their friends and family, help them have as much fun as possible so they come back again...because you arnt helpin your field out if you dont. hope this means something to someone. i completely changed my entire attitude towards "noobs" after i very nearly got banned from my field for being a complete jerk to newer players and taking advantage of them. so....BE NICE TO YOUR NOOBS!

And there you have it. You are posting this because you were a punk and took advantage of new players. I am glad you changed your attitude towards new players, but in this thread you are taking it way too far and thus causing you to be wrong in almost everything you said. Most of us here are very positive and choose recball as our game of choice. We help support the game and bring in as many people as we can.

I for one not only have been active in online paintball communities over the years, but also do everything I can to bring new players to the sport. I even have my own private field and fill it with new and experienced players. I have even gone to people’s homes and given demonstrations on the sport, its gear, its rules and objectives, etc. I have helped in changing potentially harmful laws concerning paintball. And I have been (and still am) a business owner in the sport.

To think you know anything about me and what I think about recball or even paintball in general by simply reading my post in a thread which has a topic of what we don’t like about recball is laughable. Your post is clearly only aimed to argue against the tide. Stand strong my young brother and fight for the sake of the fight alone. But be warned that many of us have been there and have kids there now. You will look back at this and smile one day. You were off base in your arguments and statements, and wrong in your conclusions.

[Mr.Aggsauce]

"hogwash" to everything u said...but i believe all i said that concerned you was u seemed like a grumpy old player and u had a long list of dislikes. so "hogwash" to everything else u said that didnt apply to that...hogwash i say hogwash. oh and i believe i did follow the parameters of the topic.. i said i dont like people that complain about noobs recball. but i also put my pros about what i like about paintball where did it say i couldnt do that? and maybe i do like getting shot in the back of the head...how do u know i dont pay people to shoot me in the back of the head b4 each game just to get me off?? that would be weird but wouldnt u be completely wrong if it was true...i may not like getting shot in the back of the head but i dont "hate" it like all you other guys...i could care less if im far enough up for a "noob" to consider me being on the other team and capping me and if its an accident i dont hold it against any "noobs"..."to error is human, to forgive divine" think about that homie i believe someone really famous said that.

[shartley]

Originally Posted by PBCsniper2baller

"hogwash" to everything u said...but i believe all i said that concerned you was u seemed like a grumpy old player and u had a long list of dislikes. so "hogwash" to everything else u said that didnt apply to that...hogwash i say hogwash.

LOL Come on now, at least you could have been original.

[Mr.Aggsauce]

thats hogwash...didnt u just imply that i was already tryin to be original by arguing and countering every1 elses views of recball? i think im pretty original in the fact im the only 1 in the thread that honestly doesnt "hate" recball at all. there is nothin about paintball that makes me "hate" it except complainers...oh and i guess u didnt see the rest of my post because u were trying to get back at me as quick as you could and throw my words in my face...pretty mature old friend/brother..and the whole thing you talk about w/ experienced players and new players is hogwash... we are all the same...because "once the game is over, the king and the pawn go back in the same box."