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Old 07-10-2007, 03:46 PM
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No stock , no fancy body kit, just a faster loader a faster board an L7 bolt a bigger bottle (110) faster loader oh yea I already said that speed can't get it fast enough who needs a sight when you got 30 balls per sec thats what I'm talking about, pray and spray leave all the body mods off keep it light (so you can carry more paint) just kidding both company's make good products it; personal choice if you can look at both before you by seldom are the pictures accurate
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:20 PM
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Sir Rod is right, I Keep the the tank in my vest and i run a remote line. And why would i want to use a tank as a stock? Its way too heavy, so when i'll shoot i'll be shooting in the air. So the stock will help because it seems when i try to hit a still target the gun seems to gradually go up. So a stock should help. And to "the boss" in woodsball, 30 bps won't beat accuracy, Even though its a advantage when you have both.

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Old 07-17-2007, 01:50 PM
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And why would i want to use a tank as a stock? Its way too heavy, so when i'll shoot i'll be shooting in the air. So the stock will help because it seems when i try to hit a still target the gun seems to gradually go up. So a stock should help. And to "the boss" in woodsball, 30 bps won't beat accuracy, Even though its a advantage when you have both.
you're kidding me. im not even going to waste my time with you two.


edit - i lied. im going on this.

if you put the tank up to your shoulder it works like a stock. itll keep your center of gravity near the trigger frame which will give the gun a more balanced feel and therefore lighter. A stock with a remote line is just going to throw off the balance of the gun, and create a much larger feel to the gun. So no, the stock wont help and also in "woodsball" having a remote line can be a hassle because it often gets caught on branches. Plus, remotes are notorious for working on an off.

Also, if you're complaning about the 'kick' of an ion you need to go to the gym. im a small guy, but a stock ion doesnt have THAT much kick. To elminate that kick your best option would be to get a lighter bolt because the movement of the bolt is what is causing that. It will also improve your efficiency and therefore improve your accuracy because the more consistent velocity you have the easier you'll be able to predict the flight of the ball.

Is 30 BPS accurate? Yes, 30 is just as accurate if the velocity is consistant and the paint to barrel match is correct. I can shoot a full hopper at 30 BPS with a stock barrel on a ion more accurate than 1 shot. Why? Because there's no in between time that your aim can move.

Please, dont make me write more.

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Old 07-17-2007, 02:24 PM
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I will have to back Scpaintballer up, using a tank as a stock will not make you shoot into the air. That would be your posture that does that. The only marker that I have experienced that has a problem with kick is a Cyborg.. and that is minimal. Also, the weight issue. A 45/45 is LIGHT. I believe the issue with your tank is the fact that it is a 91/45. That's 10 man days style..but whatever floats your boat.

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Old 07-17-2007, 02:35 PM
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I will have to back Scpaintballer up, using a tank as a stock will not make you shoot into the air. That would be your posture that does that. The only marker that I have experienced that has a problem with kick is a Cyborg.. and that is minimal. Also, the weight issue. A 45/45 is LIGHT. I believe the issue with your tank is the fact that it is a 91/45. That's 10 man days style..but whatever floats your boat.
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Old 07-17-2007, 06:43 PM
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Too bad you wasted your time on us two. and you don't have to write any more if you don't want to. But when i'm laying down, and i'm shooting, the gun gradually goes up and i'm gripping it pretty solid. But you would like me to go into detail, too bad. And i have a remote cover and if you're too lazy to turn a remote line on and off, maybe YOU should hit the gym. So you stay on the speedball field, and i'll stay on THE paintball field. See ya

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Old 07-17-2007, 08:58 PM
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Whoa, nice shootin' there, Tex. But remember that there's a lot of experience going around here to go with the opinions. Take the advice you get with a grain of salt. Put it all together and make a decision based on all that and your own wits. (Do I hear an echo of myself?)

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Old 07-18-2007, 08:09 AM
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Old 07-18-2007, 09:43 AM
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i cant really see at all where scpaintballer01 is coming from at all except to cover up from where he was wrong... if the question was about weight (which im pretty sure it was) a stock is significally lighter than a 45/45, whether you like the stock or the tank its all preference
and if you have to shoot 30 balls at some1 and pray that it hits them... well i guess its all preference again... lol

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Old 07-18-2007, 10:08 AM
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Carleton Carbon Fiber 68/4500 DOT-11194....................2.1 lbs (953.4 Grams)
Carleton FiberGlass 68/4500 DOT-11005.......................2.6 lbs (1180.4 Grams)
Catalina Aluminum 47/3000 DOT- 3AL3000...................2.7 lbs (1225.8 Grams)
LUXFER Carbon Fiber 88/3000 DOT 10915-3000............2.3 lbs (1044.2 Grams)
LUXFER CARBON FIBER 68/4500 DOT 10915-4500...........2.1 lbs (953.4 Grams)
SCI "white" 68ci 4500psi 08/2005 bottle.......................2.5 lbs (1133.9 Grams)
Carleton Fiberglass 45/4500 DOT 11005........................1.9lbs (861.8 Grams)
stako/ceasair Composite bottle (NOT DOT approved)......1.75lbs (793.8 Grams)


This info is a sticky on PBNation that was given to them by Nitroduck. Here's the thread i got it from: Air System Wieghts - PbNation

And yes, of course your 91/4500 is going to be heavy, for gods sake it's rare to find a 88/3000 let alone a 91/45.

Part 2-
A full 20 oz Co2 tank weighs around 3 lbs 10 ounces. That its self weighs more than almost all the HPA tanks on the market. Add at with the weight of a stock which im going to give the benefit of the doubt and say 3-4 lbs = a 7-8 lbs set up.

Sorry man, i dont care what you think -- numbers dont lie. Oh and all my sources are credible:
Air System Wieghts - PbNation
Xtreme Paintball Guns, Equipment and Reviews--Pure Energy 20-oz CO2 Bottles

click more info above the picture and it will give you the full weight.

thankyou and have a nice day.

-larry

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