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Shocker FAQ & Guide

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Originally Posted by Archer99
Here are some of the questions I had about Shockers before I bought mine, along with the answers I have discovered after my first weeks with this great marker.

1. Q: Are Shockers really that accurate? A: Ok this could be a long one. My old gun was a very tricked, low pressure GT2000. With the correct paint/barrel combination, I would be hard pressed to tell a huge accuracy difference between it and my shocker. Sacrilege you say! Everyone catch your breath, here is the rest... that is only true under specific circumstances, shooting a correctly zeroed sight (red dot). ONE shot with the red dot was almost as accurate with one gun as the other. Shoot more than one shot and there is no comparison. Shoot fast with the GT and the pattern opens up. This is caused by the gun moving around more, the longer trigger pull, and the slightly more inconsistent velocities. The shocker puts all the balls in the same place. It barely moves with firing, even my SF on full auto. It is also very consistent. I have a Prochrono digital and my shocker frequently shoots 2-3 shots with the exact same fps. The rest rarely vary more than 3-4 fps. Consistency=Accuracy. In stock form, the Shocker would completely dominate the aforementioned GT2000. It took lots of time, effort, and money to get the GT shooting close to the accuracy of a Shocker. In stock form, there is not another gun that I have seen that can compete with a Shocker.

2. Q: Are Shockers really that quiet? A: Yes-with a quiet barrel. The guns internals produce almost no sound at all. The limiting factor is the barrel. With the stock barrel, there will not be a quieter gun on the field without a pump handle.

3. Q: Are Shockers really that big? A: Depends.. I think most of the "Shockers are giant 10lb guns" thinking comes from the fact that Shockers are frequently the first electro most people own. If you are like me, you bought a low cost semi (spyder, m98, piranha), found out you loved paintball, and saved up to buy a high end marker. Most of the low cost semis have lighter construction (more plastics, fewer parts), and when you make a jump to a Shocker, it is going to feel heavier and bulkier. Note that we are talking ounces here. Take your gun and feel the weight. Now fill your hopper with paintballs. Chances are it is now heavier than an empty shocker. My Shocker with a 24oz tank and 12v revy, measures 26” long and 19” high. With a vertically mounted regulator, a barrel in the 12” to 14” range and a properly adjusted drop forward, you can competitively play any position on the speedball field. Put on that stock 16” AA and the woods become your domain.

4. Q: Are Shockers hard to maintain? A: No, but If you can’t take every part of your M98, Spyder, or Mag apart, put the parts in a bucket and shake them around, then reassemble your marker without the manual, you may not be Shocker material. I come from a long line of machinists and mechanics. I’m a CAD draftsman myself and very technically oriented, so I love working on my Shocker. I frequently clean and lube it not because it needs it, but just because I find it relaxing and enjoyable. If you find yourself chucking your marker behind the seat of your truck with paint all over it after a long day of play, get another marker. The recommended daily maintenance on a Shocker can be done in 1 min-Unscrew and remove the bolt. Lube it and replace. The recommended monthly maintenance on a Shocker can be done in less than 10 mins. The manuals are well written, and a Smart Parts Tech is a phone call (and maybe a couple of minutes on hold) away.

5. Q: Are Shockers really Gas Hogs? A: Yes- Compared to most markers anyway. Shockers really have to use more gas because of their pneumatic operation. There is just more for the gas to do in a Shocker. The gas has to cycle the bolt back and forth to load balls every shot. This is the same gas that is used in the air assist. The problem is that it moves the bolt and then is expelled from the gun while a different volume of gas is propelling the paintball. That’s almost twice as much gas per shot as the average blowback. The upside is that because of its low pressure operation, the Shocker works great off of CO2. Liquid CO2 cannot exist at the operating pressure of the Shocker (180-200psi). CO2 usage was the major decision on my purchase of a Shocker. Believe it or not, not everyone has access to HPA! My field does not have HPA and you are hard pressed to find another electro that functions as well on CO2 as a Shocker (Impulse and Intimidator come to mind). Another plus is the cost of the air system. My 24oz Anti-siphon CO2 tank cost me less than $30. Most other electros require a much more expensive (and bulkier) HPA system. The HPA is usually more expensive to refill especially in the 4500psi version. So yes, the Shocker is a gas hog, but the low cost of the air system and tank fills tend to balance out the gas usage.

Those are the questions I had when deciding on a Shocker, and the answers I have found after ownership. A Shocker won’t turn you into Rambo. In fact, my marks probably went down as I got used to my Shocker, but the accuracy, speed, and stealth of this marker will allow you to be competitive against any marker out there, and out-gun most of them.

Note: This info is purely my own observations and opinions. If I have any misleading information here, please bring it to my attention. This info is based on the Shocker in my sig. I have not shot any of the newer LS or Vertical models, but if you would like to donate one….

Update: Been playing with a 2001 V-Sport now for 6 Months. The new leverswitch trigger feels better to me than the domeswitch trigger did. I also have a freak barrel for this marker. The ability to match paint is a great feature. No more worries about small paint rolling out of my barrel. I am surprised by how good the Vertical feed and 68cuin tank balance. The marker seems much smaller when properly balanced.

There is a gun with the quietness of a shocker prowling about. Its called the Matrix by Diablo.

I still think that the price/performance ratio makes the Shocker a great buy.
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1. Timing on the old boards is done by flipping a set of 4 dip switches. The first two control the bolt speed. The second two control the firing bolt time (how long the firing piston is open, and how much air is used.) Generally it should come timed, but if you wanna screw around with it, make sure you mark down somewhere what the original setting was so you don't screw up you timing and forget what the proper timing was.

2. No it isn't just a gimmick to sell a certain product. You have to use dow 33 grease to grease your shocker or your gonna screw it up. The oil doesn't stick to the parts, so after a lot of fast cycling of the parts and lost of air passing through these parts, the oil will blow all over the place and eventually you will have nothing protecting the innards of your marker parts. The grease stays on the parts, and that is why it must be used. Thiing is you don't even have to buy the smartparts dow 33 grease. The sell it at a lot of hardware stores as well. Just make sure its dow 33.

3. The battery is a one shot deal. It lasts for about 60,000 shots though so as long as you have an on/off switch you should be fine. The nine volt convertion isn't that major of a deal as long as you don't stick brand spacking new batteries in it. Other then that just take the batteries out of your twelve vlot rev that you have used for a while and throw them in.

4. The power feed is when the feed port crosses the opening of the breach. When you have an air assist it uses access air form the marker to push the balls faster into the breach of the marker. If its already on you gun all you have to do is attach a hopper and it will do all the work for you. If not you just have to unscrew the standard feed and then screw in the powerfeed attachment.

5. The new solinoids and new pistons are just working components of the marker. The new solinoids may just mean that the marker was freaquently used and have had them replaced. The new piston is one of tow things. Either the person put in a new one made of a stronger alloy or they old one had worn out and has been replaced. Its the part that moves back and forth to let air into certain chambers to fire the marker. Teh werm 2 bolt I have as well. It is a delrin bolt which is lighter and is self lubricating. With this your marker will be a little more efficient and the bolt will cycle faster because it is lighter then the standard bolt head. But even thoughthe bolt is self lubrication, still mack sure you grease the o-rings on the bolt head itself. The double trigger is simply that. A two fingered trigger. A gadget grip is a foregrip that is placed up at the front of the marker help stabalize the marker with your other hand that isn't on the trigger. The s/f lock, is just that your marker is apparently a select fire marker, meaning it has a switch on the fornt of the marker that when hit will either send the marker into full auto or three shot burst. The lock is a cover for this switch because full auto and burst is not allowed in tournaments. So if you don't do tournaments you don't need it, but if you do, thats what its for. The maxflo locking ring, is a ring that goes on the maxflo reg. The reg is used to control your velocity and can be done by hand without any tools. If one were so inclined in a game they could simply turn there velocity up and then after the game turn it back down to what it should be. This ring makes it so once you have set your velocity you use an allen key to tighten the ring so you can't turn up your velocity without the aid of a tool.

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Q: When taking off the grip frame what screws should I remove?

A: Take out the two base screws that are attaching it to the body, and also the TOP GRIP FRAME SCREWS. If you fail to remove the top grip frame screws you can chip your solenoid board rendering your gun useless.
Other Frequently Asked Questions can be found here:
http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15649
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Helpful Links

Smart Parts Official Website

Shocker Owners Group

Ydnas 03 Shocker Page (has all kinds of info)

03 Shocker O-Ring Diagram

ALL the Custom 03 shockers HERE

Smart Parts Official Owners Manual (Online Version)

Factory Upgrade Page (only applies to shocker SN 1-3900)

Better o-ring guides than the old one HSW made can be found here: http://www.angelfire.com/mech/zds/s...intenance2.html - ydna



Where To Buy 03 Shockers and 03 Shocker Upgrades

Punishers PB

3Ds Xtreme

Paintball Wholesalers

E Paintball Outlet

These are the SP specialty stores, regular paintball stores IE PB Gear, First Call paintball, also carry shocker stuff. The stores above are recommended above all other stores (for shockers of course).


FAQ

Q: Are old school shocker parts compatible with 03s?
A: No, the 03 Shocker is a completely new design, it is nothing like any previous Shocker made. It is a completely different gun in every possible way. By all rights it should not be called "Shocker" but somehow due to some morons behind the SP advertising departement it is. The only characteristics that the two share are threads for the vertical feed tubes, ball detents, and barrels. But even then, some of the private label Shockers will be cocker threaded for some odd reason, so the differences become even greater. -Ydna

Q: Are high pressure tanks compatible with 03 shockers?
A: Yes you can use any output tank on any Smart Parts marker so long as the output of the tank is higher then the Max-Flo's operating pressure. This means as long as your tank outputs over 200-psi you'll be fine. All Smart Parts guns come stock with a Max-Flo regulator. -Ydna

Q: Why doesn't the 03 shocker need an lpr?
A: It dosen't need an LPR because the marker already operates the pneumatics at 90-psi (stock bolts only), despite what the input pressure is. But if you've got your heart set on one then you can get either the Evolve LPR mount or the NEW DeSIGNZ LPR mount, both will accept gagues too. -Ydna

Q: Are 03 Shockers Fragile and easy to brake
A: They aren't really very fragile but the board's power button is very easy to break off when reassembling the frame with the body. Besides for that it's fine. -Ydna

Q: When buying a shocker do you get a choice between a vertical and horizontal regulator?
A: As stock (base model ) the gun comes with a vertical Flo and a bottomline Smartvalve to shut off your tank. If you elect to get the Ultimate package for more money, it will come with [at the time of this writing] a gas-thru grip and the bottomline Max-Flo 4500 system, which is the reg and tank. BUt this option costs more...one thing you might not know is that the bottomline (screw-in) Max-Flo as seen on many pre-2003 Shockers and some pre-2003 Impulses is no longer made! - Ydna

Q: Can 2003 shockers run CO2?
A: In a short answer, yes. But they must be anti-siphoned tanks. Some people say shockers will get ruined by CO2, which is only true if the AREN'T anti-siphoned. You won't get as good as performance as if you were running air or nitrogen. - xXblinkXegoXx

Q: If my shocker doesnt have a vert reg, does that mean i need to buy one?
A: Not necessarily. This depends if your tank has its own reg. All max flow tanks, (the kind you get in the ultimate package) have regs. So gas through grips work fine with them. All shockers bought from a store (not used) will come with at least one reg.

Q: Whats the maitinence on a shockers selenoid?
A: Solenoid maintenance is necessary every once in a while. Not too often, though. Roughly I'd say every two months or every 10,000 shots (aired-up shots, not solenoid clicks). I wrote a guide which can be found on my site. (Up in useful links) If the folks at your proshop can do it then so much the better, but it really isn't too complicated. It is a little tricky to do with an 03 simply because of how the noids are mounted to the bodies, but it's not impossible.

Q: Are 03 shockers closed bolt?
A: This is a pretty controversial question. Some people will tell you closed, some people will tell you open. I believe it to be an open - bolt marker. This is because before you fire the marker, the bolt is in the open position. This does not make a difference in accuracy though, because whether the bolt is open or closed before firing takes place before the painball leaves the marker. What does matter though is wheter or not the breech is sealed off when it fires. In this case, the shocker's breech is sealed, giving the shocker the consistencey (accuracy) of a closed bolt marker. - xXblinkXegoXx

A: I would put forth that the gun operates no differently then any other open bolt marker. The only diference is the addition of the o-ring before the bolt, and the difference it makes is neglegeable. Most bolts do a fine job of sealing the chamber by themselves. -Ydna

Q: Where does the air enter the area where the bolt assembly is at? where does the air enter the bolt?
A:Running the length of the body are two tubes for pressurized air, called distribution manifolds. These are where the two small screws are under the bolt guide at the back of the body. The one on the right directs air form the vertical adapter to the solenoid and form the solenoid to the bolt sleeve. Alternatelt, the manifold on the left directs air from the vertical adapter to the fire chamber part, where it is allows to be shunted through the bolt when it is in it's forward position. -Ydna

Q: Can You replace the sp smart valve with your own ASA?
A:The ASA is a standard dovetail-style mount, so yes you can. -Ydna

Q: Can i use different HP regs on my shocker?
A:The vertical Flo is a standard vertical reg, so yes you can. - Ydna

Q: Where is the cheapest place to buy a shocker
A:www.punisherspb.com is where i reccomend for all your shocker needs. Great service from people who know their shockers, almost always have the lowest prices also.

Q: What kind of Barrel Threads does a Shocker Use?
A: Shockers have there own kind of barrel thread. Called Shocker threads.

Q:What kind of tank should i use with my vert max flow?
A:You should use HP tanks with the stock vertical Max-Flo reg that comes with the gun to avoid shootdown. This means any tank with 400-psi or higher. The onyl LP tank I suggest using is a Crossfire, since it has the greatest amount of flow. -Ydna

Q:If i buy a shocker brand new, what kind of reg will it come with, or will it just be a gas thru?
A:No longer do Shockers come with a gas-thru. At the time all models come with a vertical regulator...the ultimate packages also come with a high-pressure bottomline reg as well. -ydna



*Usernames after each answer is the person who answered them. Answers with no username behind them were by me. Some answers were altered a bit from the original FAQ to fit the question better.


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1.How To Clean Your Vert Maxflo
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...hreadid=702696
-Huey 69

2. How To Install A Tadao Board
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...hreadid=666392
-squirells

3. How To Change Dwell, ROF and Rebound On STOCK Shocker Board
http://www.angelfire.com/mech/zds/skr03/dwellrof.html
-Ydna

For A Tadao Board
http://www.angelfire.com/mech/zds/sk...daotiming.html
-Ydna

4. How To Shorten Your Grip Screws (For those who have hit there horizontal board)
http://shockerowners.com/showthread.php?t=3375
-MeatSeaker

5. How To Install A New Feedtube
http://shockerowners.com/showthread.php?t=1527
-Ydna

6. To Clean Your Bolt
http://shockerowners.com/showthread.php?t=2857How
-Rebel Puz
or
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...pagen umber=1
-Huey69

7. Full Dissasembly
http://pbvids.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4348
-memberof wgpress

Others:

Private Label Guide
http://www.angelfire.com/mech/zds/skr03/pl/index.html
-Ydna

Shocker Introduction
http://www.angelfire.com/mech/zds/skr03/intro.html
-Ydna


Shocker FAQ
http://www.angelfire.com/mech/zds/skr03/faq.html
- Ydna

Shocker Technical Information
http://www.angelfire.com/mech/zds/skr03/technical.html
-Ydna
or
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...hreadid=350415
-All that posted

Animated Shocker Bolts
http://shockerowners.com/showthread.php?t=10237
-Doug Warner


How To Videos!
1. Remove Your Board
http://www.jayloo.com/files/vids/400...moval_176a.wmv
2. Change Rebound Settings (Not For All Shockers)
http://www.jayloo.com/files/vids/400...bound_788a.wmv
3. How To Change Your Dwell
http://www.jayloo.com/files/vids/400...Dwell_250a.wmv
-Thanks To Ydna

Custom Mods For Your Shocker!
well depending on ur seial nimber u might already havee a flipped switch but...For those who can solder but dont have surgon hands...

-shadrach

For those with surgons hands:

-JoeAe05




Shave down your trigger for a lighter pull


-Slim Vela

LED color change
If you’re sick of the stock blue LED, I can install a new one onto your board. This new LED will shine through your power switch just like the stock blue one does. This mod will void your warranty.


Can Be Done by Ydna...zdspb.com

LED relocation
This is a custom modification that involves installing a new LED someplace else on the back of the marker. The blue LED above the power switch actuator will no longer shine; it will be replaced by the new relocated one. This mod will void your warranty.
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