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Old 10-25-2007, 07:57 AM
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I didn't make the rules but I have to abide by them...As I understand it as long as you didn't chase the player in there and your not with in the 20' distance rule your at liberty to shoot all and any...

But your not getting the spirit of my post. That the Driver or anyone in the tank that shoots a personal marker out of it should be eliminated if the person or personal marker is hit.
This driver shot me with impunity, because he knew the Ref was on his side...and wouldn't do anything about it. Blatent Rules Violation. What should have happened is the tank when he started chasing us into the ruins and came with in the 20' encrochment distance the ref should have eliminated the tank acording to the rules. It would be ther same if I walked around a corner of a building and a tank was with in the 20' distance im eliminated. Its whomever encroches and violates the 20' rule...The rule is "GREY" as in not clear. Which should be reasoned by an impartal ref and applied acordingly.
That is too hard for the refs to decide. The I shot your gun rule is not enforceable and doesn't make any sense to try and enforce. Tanks and tank gunners can only be tacken out by rockets. Period. The rule up here is if the person doesn't get out of the way he is dead, people are much more mobile than tanks, and that's the way it should be.
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Old 10-25-2007, 09:07 AM
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So what I see is the GRSP are being fractured by everyone and every field having thier own set acording to you all. I have no problem with that.
As long as there published, and not made up as you go along, by promoters and refs or tank drivers who don't like the cut and dried version which has been in use and morphing since scenerio paintball has existed...Is evey tank going to have its own indivigiual set? Sounds like you all are making your own rules, where are thies rules going to be used at? What Field? What Promoters will abide by your set of rules. Ben Torcelli of MPP who is a former team mate of mine and a very close friend said, that marker hits eleminated the players, no matter where they occur...Scenario's or Simulations of real warfair state that if I shoot the driver of a tank or his personal marker he is Dead. When marker hits don't count acording to your rules thats where I don't play...
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Old 10-25-2007, 09:16 AM
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Opps... Most of the tanks I've seen have fixed mounted markers that are pivotal. Therefore they are part of the tank. If a player comes out of a port hole with marker in hand then they are like any other player. As far as drivers not being able to shot , what about the one man tanks? I believe they should not be alowed to shot while in motion.

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Old 10-25-2007, 09:19 AM
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Opps... Most of the tanks I've seen have fixed mounted markers that are pivotal. Therefore they are part of the tank. If a player comes out of a port hole with marker in hand then they are like any other player. As far as drivers not being able to shot , what about the one man tanks? I believe they should not be alowed to shot while in motion.

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Absolutly Kdiddy63 fixed guns don't count, that would include a one gun tank.
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Old 10-25-2007, 09:28 AM
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So what I see is the GRSP are being fractured by everyone and every field having thier own set acording to you all. I have no problem with that.
As long as there published, and not made up as you go along, by promoters and refs or tank drivers who don't like the cut and dried version which has been in use and morphing since scenerio paintball has existed...Is evey tank going to have its own indivigiual set? Sounds like you all are making your own rules, where are thies rules going to be used at? What Field? What Promoters will abide by your set of rules. Ben Torcelli of MPP who is a former team mate of mine and a very close friend said, that marker hits eleminated the players, no matter where they occur...Scenario's or Simulations of real warfair state that if I shoot the driver of a tank or his personal marker he is Dead. When marker hits don't count acording to your rules thats where I don't play...
Actually Ben is who asked me to start getting these ideas together. This way we (being Tankers) can eliminate unenforceable rules such as marker hits, and the you got to close to me so your tank is out rule from people's heads. These are the kinds of rules that people will stand on the side of the road at a game and cry to the refs about for 20 minutes holding up a game to no avail. What we are trying to do here is have all fields and tankers agree so we don't have to live by 15 sets of rules for 15 fields. The simpler we keep this the better off we are.
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Old 10-25-2007, 09:33 AM
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For marker hits I do think tanks should have a limit on guns on board. If we have to make a different bracket called troop transport with different rules then so be it. I get what you are saying about people standing in the back and sticking their guns out, but that really isn't a tank gun. That's a troops gun and should be in a different section.
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Well Daddy: I think its a wonderful endevor too long in comming.
That eveyone should be included because the more heads you have on a problem the more ideas will come through.
I have Written, Directed, Produced, and Stared in several Scenerio's myself.
There is no reason to not have everyone's ideas put forth in a meaningfull dialog. All For One and One For All...Thies Ideas in here
should all be considered. Written down and won't you all meaning the field owners,producers, tankers, and players have a vote. In the end the dialog and "Freedon of Speach" is the bottom line in haveing an aceptable set of rules...Im in for the long haul and anyway I can help Im glad to assist...
The Rules will change and morph into something everyone can acept...and like the "Constitution" be ever changing.
God Bless everyone of you and our wonderful sport...Long may we play.
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Old 10-25-2007, 05:11 PM
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DBD i understand you, but there needs to be some classification. Between Fixed Markers and Murder holes. Reason? What about people with open turrets who actually POP up to shoot a marker.

If the gunner gets shot while popping up is he dead? Gun hits count? what if he is shot on the gun while poping up? same as sticking it through a murder hole.

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DBD i understand you, but there needs to be some classification. Between Fixed Markers and Murder holes. Reason? What about people with open turrets who actually POP up to shoot a marker.

If the gunner gets shot while popping up is he dead? Gun hits count? what if he is shot on the gun while poping up? same as sticking it through a murder hole.

Ill type something up this weekend.
I think that goes back to tank classification. Tanks should be built with a goal of being goggle safe on the inside (NEVER WILL BE USED IN THIS WAY). but the idea still is the same. must be closed off from out side and open only to small close able holes, fixed/netted doors and a cannon or 2. This should be checked before a game just like the cannon velocity.
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DBD i understand you, but there needs to be some classification. Between Fixed Markers and Murder holes. Reason? What about people with open turrets who actually POP up to shoot a marker.

If the gunner gets shot while popping up is he dead? Gun hits count? what if he is shot on the gun while poping up? same as sticking it through a murder hole.

Ill type something up this weekend.
Tanks don't have murderholes, they have gun ports or slits troops who are riding in shoot out of.
Murderhole is from midevil times above the gate of the castle was a hole where boiling oil or water or whatever was dumped to inflict pain and death on the barbarions trying to knock down the gate with a hugh log or battering ram.

At Camp Blanding there are concreet block size holes in the buildings which have been refered to a "Murderholes".

As long as I have been playing paintball gun hits have counted. Fixed guns such as in turrits don't count as for being hit. But if you pop up as you said out of a hatch or door or what ever and are hit anywhere your headed to the parking lot. This rule might change but if it did it would be as silly as "Head Shots Not Counting". In the earily days of paintball head shots did not count because they were thought to be too dangerious, and field owners felt that if they didn't count that they would not happen. Another falicy shot down by time...
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